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i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney did in his debate. >> chris: there is the perception that bide season a loose cannon and a gaffe machine and i asked paul ryan about this last week and he said not in the highly visible highly structured events. he is disciplined and has been studying all of his debates. what do you expect from the vice president? >> i think that is true and if you you remember a lot of his gaffes, a, usually aren't covered by the media and b, are often sort of humorous but not damaging in the sense that he is changing policy or putting something out
i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney...
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biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and dha sep rnd . rvo fnd and mitt romney opposed it. >> greta: the president admits he had a bad night. how does he recover? >> he has a sports mentality. i thi it was smart to publicly ny thisdoabit thhe cin pithe go at romney. but the obama campaign of attack romney, after he won the debate. i thought that was an odd strategy because we will have to see president obama on the attack. th's what rishre wdegp, se in date.m that's where obama has to be on the attack, but also not look too mean because he does have the likeable edge over mitt romney. he can't lose that. >> greta: how do do youhat pren antk
biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and...
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but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice? >> up to a point. there is good joe and bad joe. so joe needs to moderate his joe-ness. his strength is that i think he can come across as a little bit more of an every man than the president and he will go after paul ryan on the ryan plan and the budget that ryan and romney are running on, saying it favors the wealthy and it will cut medicare, a very popular entitlements program. you don't want joe doing his gaffe thing, getting carried away. i think he does that more often in crowd it's. >> and speeches. >> he is pretty goods in the debates and against palin last time around. >> i think there is -- it's a fascinatin
but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice?...
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joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan and yoda. i so revere him. i'll go with obi wan. >> i respect him as well, so we decided he was luke skywalker. >> oh my gosh. >> cenk: the guy who was going to heal the planet. >> that's right. which is mocked by the right. what is so terrible. >> cenk: it would be great if we healed the planet. it would be terrific. mark hamill. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and the elbow of the day. oh, eliot spitzer. >> eliot: you almost forgot about it. cenk, i'm not going to let you forget that again. your you're going to be sitting next to me tomorrow night. you better be nice to me. we have governor granholm coming up about what it's like
joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan...
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joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. by their fruit, you will recognize them.
joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. by their fruit, you will recognize them.
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people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a very different trajectory. that bounce after the first debate is continuing on. there has been about a four or five-point shift in the race following that debate. i don't think like some people on the right that that is permanent or that that is a lock. but the race changed fundamentally after that debate. and the president's job next tuesday is see if he can change it back. >> kevin, what does the president to v to do on tuesday to do that? >> the president has to decide if he still wants to be president. i mean that bizarre performance. >> he needs the fire in the belly. >> that bizarre performance signa
people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a...
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it's 0-for-3. >> i like that. >> eliot: send that on to joe biden. he can use that, too. we'll be here thursday night and we'll be here with popcorn and soda. jennifer granholm, thank you so much for your time. looking forward to seeing you for our coverage. >> youyou betcha. >> eliot: a billionaire resort owner tells his employees they may lose their jobs if barack obama gets reelect: that's next in my view. but first, a reminder tomorrow night join me along with cenk uygur, john fugelsang and governor jennifer granholm as we cover the vice presidential debate. al be an exciting match up. here on current tv. more "viewpoint" coming right up. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our scree
it's 0-for-3. >> i like that. >> eliot: send that on to joe biden. he can use that, too. we'll be here thursday night and we'll be here with popcorn and soda. jennifer granholm, thank you so much for your time. looking forward to seeing you for our coverage. >> youyou betcha. >> eliot: a billionaire resort owner tells his employees they may lose their jobs if barack obama gets reelect: that's next in my view. but first, a reminder tomorrow night join me along with cenk...
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i think joe biden won this debate. i don't think paul yin lost it. and i thought that paul ryan held his own against someone doing this about 100 years. >> and these poll numbers are they interesting and fun to look at? >> there is taking us a while is that it takes a while to figure out, and this is to figure out what happened. i know obama campaign people are adjusting after denver paying a lot of attention to swing states. and said what are people in colorado thinking about this and people in virginia and virginia. he said issue as side he said people got a clear choice on medicare and social security and abortion and other issues. >> and there is what joe biden is doing is bucking up democrats. if independents aren't decided at this point they're probably watching a baseball game tonight. democratsed a terrible week. they've been panicked and what they needed is someone throwing a punch. i think they got that in joe biden tonight. >> there is another segment ahead. straight head there is no doubt about the obama administration did mess up on resp
i think joe biden won this debate. i don't think paul yin lost it. and i thought that paul ryan held his own against someone doing this about 100 years. >> and these poll numbers are they interesting and fun to look at? >> there is taking us a while is that it takes a while to figure out, and this is to figure out what happened. i know obama campaign people are adjusting after denver paying a lot of attention to swing states. and said what are people in colorado thinking about this...
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joe biden is in delaware tonight deep in debate preparations. paul ryan arriving in kentucky a little while ago. over the last four years we have not had the kind of strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenges. time and again he told us he would take on the things that he needs to. he hasn't and i will. >> in the midst of all of this talk of our debate. listen to what he told diane sawyer on abc. >> if you have a bad game you move on and move forward to the next one. welcome. >> how are you tonight? >> the president looks mean there. he looks like he realized he had a poor game and he is flexing his muscles to come at your guy. are you frightened? >> no. he said today that he thinks he has been too polite. maybe he willp only call us a lie ar five times a day. it is kind of like, i was a lawyer and it is like going into a closing argument when you don't have a descent fact on your side it is tough to pull off. lie ar lliar liar pants on fire. that is the new barack obama for 2012 i guess. >> he is bouncing off the walls a
joe biden is in delaware tonight deep in debate preparations. paul ryan arriving in kentucky a little while ago. over the last four years we have not had the kind of strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenges. time and again he told us he would take on the things that he needs to. he hasn't and i will. >> in the midst of all of this talk of our debate. listen to what he told diane sawyer on abc. >> if you have a bad game you move on and move forward to the...
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>> i think joe biden won the debate. his mission was to go in, energize democrats, defend the president's record and challenge congressman ryan on some of the misrepresentations that they've made about obama/biden record and frankly, ask him for specifics about what they would do, this mystery tax plan and whose budget are they actually running on. i think he did all of that last night and did it really well. >> kristen, do you agree with that? >> no, but i think it's possible for republicans to really think their guy won and for democrats to really think their guy won. i don't think this is partisan spinning because both men went in with different objectives. joe biden went in with his objective being i'm going to heckle the republicans, and fire up my base. he did that. i think paul ryan said i have to go in and prove i can be vice president or president of the united states. i think there are no republicans out there complaining about his performance. i think he did a good job, he did exactly what he needed to. >> i d
>> i think joe biden won the debate. his mission was to go in, energize democrats, defend the president's record and challenge congressman ryan on some of the misrepresentations that they've made about obama/biden record and frankly, ask him for specifics about what they would do, this mystery tax plan and whose budget are they actually running on. i think he did all of that last night and did it really well. >> kristen, do you agree with that? >> no, but i think it's possible...
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there is so much pressure on him to beat joe biden, that if joe biden comes out, he kind of wins. >> joe biden became a senator when paul ryan was three years old, i read. isn't that amazing? and let's play a clip from bill clinton, this was from last night. i thought he hit the nail on the head on how the democrats are perceiving the transformation to mitt romney. >> i had a different reaction from the last debate than a lot of other people did. i mean, i thought wow, here is old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all of these last two years. >> it is fascinating, i mean when you watch this row today again over the abortion comments that mitt romney made, if you chart just his history of statements about abortion, flopping all over the place. >> your head could spin like you're in "the exorcist," i mean, bill clinton is having so much fun. the candidates are not -- >> does it help clinton that he is so brilliant? it could almost work against him, people watch him being aggressive, all the things we didn't see from the president in the other night? could it hurt him? >>
there is so much pressure on him to beat joe biden, that if joe biden comes out, he kind of wins. >> joe biden became a senator when paul ryan was three years old, i read. isn't that amazing? and let's play a clip from bill clinton, this was from last night. i thought he hit the nail on the head on how the democrats are perceiving the transformation to mitt romney. >> i had a different reaction from the last debate than a lot of other people did. i mean, i thought wow, here is old...
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it's going to be about joe biden. if it takes seven minutes of him acting nuts we're going to roll it seven minute. >> he will be caught laughing and smiling to show you he couldn't turn it off. he didn't know when to turn it on. >> sean: bret baier pointed that out. he was doing this during serious discussion on iran. and when he said about iran calm down, the ire yawnin that's believe in islamic state have been fighting proxy terror wars we're supposed to calm down as they get closer to a nuclear weapon? >> i think what paul ryan did not only did he win the battle on taxes and laid that vision out for america, but he also showed this country how deep he is on foreign policy. i think he showed incredible depth and intelligence whit comes to where our place in the world is in the east. -- middle east. the fact is that what they have a problem with is that they've got a problem with facts and reality. they can't talk about plans for future and blame everyone else from where we are in this country. now, they can't talk
it's going to be about joe biden. if it takes seven minutes of him acting nuts we're going to roll it seven minute. >> he will be caught laughing and smiling to show you he couldn't turn it off. he didn't know when to turn it on. >> sean: bret baier pointed that out. he was doing this during serious discussion on iran. and when he said about iran calm down, the ire yawnin that's believe in islamic state have been fighting proxy terror wars we're supposed to calm down as they get...
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biden is joe biden. he's authentic and real. he's state forward and he says what he thinks and he says what he means. >> mitch mcconnell criticizing style. more from mitt romney and former president bill clinton. >> the president watched the debate and thought the vice president did an excellent job presenting this administration's case. >> there was one person on stage last night who was thoughtful and respectful, steady, and poised. the other candidate, of course, just attacked. >> i kind felt for congressman ryan. he had to defend romney position that $716 billion in medicare savings in the president's budget that the congressmen voted for is some how a ripoff even though it was in his budget too. >> man he is good. for more on this debate and the struggle of the future of social security and medicare. let's go to errol lewis and thomas frank. gentlemen, thank you for being with us on "viewpoint" tonight. i came away from that debate thinking that the vice president really did the job he needed to do.
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paul ryan things they have something in common, joe biden not so sure. the republican candidate invoked a camelot era comparison. this time, the issue taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> a couple of times. >> never been done before. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was atwitter about that. that comment got a noticeable reaction from the group of undecided voters i watched during the debate last night. see it blown up there in the bottom of the screen. here is the problem, both kennedy and reagan working in a different time and place. to start, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates not even in the ballpark of what we have now. kennedy's plan, enacted after his death, took the top marginal tax rate from 91% to 71% over a two-year period. lots of loopholes, but the growth argument, gdp rose by barely a percent during that time. isn't m
paul ryan things they have something in common, joe biden not so sure. the republican candidate invoked a camelot era comparison. this time, the issue taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> a couple of times. >> never been done before. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >>...
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and he said i don't know joe, i never have enough to do it. >> jennifer: only joe biden can talk by name about the guy at the gas station. he has a big task ahead of him, and paul ryan should be armed, i would imagine with a mind full of numbers and so-called facts. ryan has not debated on this big of a stage before. but he is certainly no novice. joining me with a preview of perhaps the strategy, the expectations for tomorrow's debate is democratic strategy karen skeleton, she was a political strategist for al gore's race and debate against jack kemp and sundheim, who chaired the california republican party during arnold schwarzenegger's governorship. welcome back both of you inside "the war room." >> thank you. first of all, she did a great job in '96. i think that gore really did a great job -- >> jennifer: okay. we're getting right to it. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: karen what are your fears about the debate tomorrow? >> i would say first of all, you know, i hope he doesn't become condescending >> jennifer: joe biden. >> yeah, because there is such an age gap and experience gap. the mo
and he said i don't know joe, i never have enough to do it. >> jennifer: only joe biden can talk by name about the guy at the gas station. he has a big task ahead of him, and paul ryan should be armed, i would imagine with a mind full of numbers and so-called facts. ryan has not debated on this big of a stage before. but he is certainly no novice. joining me with a preview of perhaps the strategy, the expectations for tomorrow's debate is democratic strategy karen skeleton, she was a...
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joe biden showed up last night. i kept thinking of those nuns on the bus who have been traveling around the country, the ones who have wrapped the knuckles of paul ryan because his budget is so mean. i thought joe biden spoke really straight about the 47% -- >> jennifer: that was my favorite part. >> invoking his parents. and i thought he really spoke to the middle class on taxes on jobs, on a handful ofissues. >> jennifer: let's take a listen to a sound bite. >> it was sort of almost unprecedented. >> i don't believe that i have ever seen a debate in which one participant was as disrespectable. >> you notice they didn't have anything -- on substance -- they had to go into how he looked. maybe he is a little aggressive. >> jennifer: and what does that tell you? >> that they don't have much to work with. >> jennifer: exactly. >> they are like duck and cover when it comes to the issues. you could hear it on taxes. he didn't have an answer. >> jennifer: exactly right. i loved the moment -- it was not good for america -
joe biden showed up last night. i kept thinking of those nuns on the bus who have been traveling around the country, the ones who have wrapped the knuckles of paul ryan because his budget is so mean. i thought joe biden spoke really straight about the 47% -- >> jennifer: that was my favorite part. >> invoking his parents. and i thought he really spoke to the middle class on taxes on jobs, on a handful ofissues. >> jennifer: let's take a listen to a sound bite. >> it was...
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but on the other hand it will be up to a lot of the debates in the future, especially joe biden to get out there and say this is what paul ryan stands for. you cut a third out of medicaid, you're putting a lot of families and elderly people out on the street. that is not rhetoric. that is how bad it would be. you have to demonstrate that. you might say it's bigger than big bird. >> and let's remember that after this debate, mitt romney is still on the losing side politically of the medicare issue which the obama campaign knows and they've got a new ad about that now. let's watch that. >> victims. dependent. that's what mitt romney called 47% of americans, including people on medicare. and what about his plan for you? romney would replace guaranteed benefits with a voucher system. seniors could pay $6,000 more a year. a plan aarp says would undermine medicare. you're no victim. you earned your benefits. don't let mitt romney take them away. >> well, krystal, that's what happens with someone who says my job is not to care about those people. >> it's devastating. and as we've seen from ro
but on the other hand it will be up to a lot of the debates in the future, especially joe biden to get out there and say this is what paul ryan stands for. you cut a third out of medicaid, you're putting a lot of families and elderly people out on the street. that is not rhetoric. that is how bad it would be. you have to demonstrate that. you might say it's bigger than big bird. >> and let's remember that after this debate, mitt romney is still on the losing side politically of the...
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that was a moment for joe biden to be folksy joe biden and say, guys, everybody out there, who do you trust? we're leveling with you here. it was sort of that plain talk joe biden. i think it worked for him. >> it relates to the gaffe in joe biden when he looks in the camera and says something, this is what he really means. he always says what he really means, even if it's inappropriate. talk about appropriate, paul ryan must have drank a gallon of water during the debate. it was so strange, it seemed every other cutaway, at least in the first half of the debate he's drinking down some water. >> as a quasi marathoner, i think it's probably something he's used to doing. there's one thing about taking a sip of water and another thing to be doing the, you know, rinse and spit in the dentist chair routine. he wasn't sort of drinking. he was swishing it around and having it be noticeable. it wasn't just what he was doing, it was when he was doing it. if you notice within the first 30 or 40 seconds of walking out on to the set, he immediately reached for the water. i don't think anybody rea
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will joe biden bring that into the arena thursday night when he standing up with paul ryan? >> well, i certainly hope so. look, you know and i know and the american people -- or many of them know what the ryan budget is about. these are devastating cuts. the transformation of medicare into a privatization program. $770 billion in cuts to medicaid. what kind of moral outlook throws children poor children off of health insurance in order to give tax rates to billionaires? if joe didn't decimate this guy, i would be very surprised. >> eliot: all right, you almost had a different ending to that sentence, but i'm with you. i hope he does it. i'm glad you raised medicaid and what they do to medicaid is morally impossible to defend. all right. i'm going to take a tape of your appearance here tonight, send it to david axelrod rod joe biden and the president, bernie sanders always a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u. is >> eliot: coming up now that a case has been brought against jpmorgan chase when will the other
will joe biden bring that into the arena thursday night when he standing up with paul ryan? >> well, i certainly hope so. look, you know and i know and the american people -- or many of them know what the ryan budget is about. these are devastating cuts. the transformation of medicare into a privatization program. $770 billion in cuts to medicaid. what kind of moral outlook throws children poor children off of health insurance in order to give tax rates to billionaires? if joe didn't...
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paul ryan a b and joe biden a b-. here is the wisdom. democrats say joe biden was strong, he was the adult on stage. he stopped the bleeding, such that it was from last week's debate. for republicans paul ryan passed the can he be president threshold and joe biden was rude and arrogant. what say you? >> it's certainly the case. there were some democrats who conceded the point. that's why i gave the vice president a lower grade. the smiles, laughs, smirks. i don't think it changed anything about the race. i think that they both laid down the markers and, again, for their own parties, mostly. the vice president energizing democrats and for paul ryan showing people he was on that stage and not overrun. the vice president clearly dominated the proceedings. >> we have seen paul ryan a lot for those of us who cover politics. we have seen him on press conferences and capitol hill, never in the big lights. how did he do from start to finish? >> you know, again, we were reading the leaves a little bit. i thought he started out nervous. he reacted
paul ryan a b and joe biden a b-. here is the wisdom. democrats say joe biden was strong, he was the adult on stage. he stopped the bleeding, such that it was from last week's debate. for republicans paul ryan passed the can he be president threshold and joe biden was rude and arrogant. what say you? >> it's certainly the case. there were some democrats who conceded the point. that's why i gave the vice president a lower grade. the smiles, laughs, smirks. i don't think it changed anything...
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>> this is not my friend, joe biden, give me some green pork. that's over lunch. now, this is simply a bureaucratic navigation, but writing a secretary of energy asking for these green jobs and stimulus money. the very stuff he hits on the campaign trial a lot. he's hitting it on the campaign trial. attacking the stimulus. attacking green jobs but in these letters clearly asking for his own share of green pork when he had the opportunity. >> and what's your bottom line verdict? you think this is understandable for voters? >> i think they need to understand this is part of the congressman's job, but if he's going it never benefits small businesses, talking about green pork, green jobs, how the stimulus was a failure, he had to know these letters were out there. that opens him up to accusations of hypocrisy or ideological inconsistency. >>> friend might have been the most annoying word of the debate last night. just my take. >>> "outfront" next, he's only 12 years old but already caught the eye of apple. apple, which by the way tonight seems to be very afraid. for y
>> this is not my friend, joe biden, give me some green pork. that's over lunch. now, this is simply a bureaucratic navigation, but writing a secretary of energy asking for these green jobs and stimulus money. the very stuff he hits on the campaign trial a lot. he's hitting it on the campaign trial. attacking the stimulus. attacking green jobs but in these letters clearly asking for his own share of green pork when he had the opportunity. >> and what's your bottom line verdict? you...
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the problem was joe biden is a really good debatetor. he's been a six-term senator. he was named vice president in twoit largely on the strength of his debating performances. it isn't like he had won a bunch of primaries. yet there's a funny thing that happens with joe biden in between as people got an impression of him and he comes out and what biden is particularly good at and what ryan is unable to counter is biden wields authority well. i've known bb for 35 years. >> i was there. >> i was in the room. and that for a guy who looks even younger than he is like ryan was devastating. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about romney's 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes, and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the 47%. the 47% this nation depends on to build this country. folks, it's a
the problem was joe biden is a really good debatetor. he's been a six-term senator. he was named vice president in twoit largely on the strength of his debating performances. it isn't like he had won a bunch of primaries. yet there's a funny thing that happens with joe biden in between as people got an impression of him and he comes out and what biden is particularly good at and what ryan is unable to counter is biden wields authority well. i've known bb for 35 years. >> i was there....
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vice president joe biden, u.s. congressman paul ryan have their vice-presidential debate, the only one, this thursday, which brings us to the obvious big question for us, who's going to win? sam? >> i expect ryan to come out like mitt romney, a raging bull. but i expect biden not to play barack obama. i watched biden. i think he'll counterpunch and do it effectively and i think if he does, he wins. chris: any thoughts? >> there will be a lot of worries. this will be very interactive and a great debate. i'll wait before i see it. >> no fair. >> she reserves the right. >> i'm going to call it a draw. i think joe biden is pretty good in debates. and paul ryan is very smart. i think he's going to have a great night. i think they're going to meet -- chris: one thing about the media i'm not a media critic, but i think we say gaffe and in his case i think we are gaffes and used the wrong word and could have said the middle class is being squeezed instead of buried and no comment about it but if somebody says something in
vice president joe biden, u.s. congressman paul ryan have their vice-presidential debate, the only one, this thursday, which brings us to the obvious big question for us, who's going to win? sam? >> i expect ryan to come out like mitt romney, a raging bull. but i expect biden not to play barack obama. i watched biden. i think he'll counterpunch and do it effectively and i think if he does, he wins. chris: any thoughts? >> there will be a lot of worries. this will be very interactive...
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it's 0-for-3. >> i like that. >> eliot: send that on to joe biden. he can use that, too. we'll be here thursday night and we'll be here with popcorn and soda. jennifer granholm, thank you so much for your time. looking forward to seeing you for our coverage. >> youyou betcha. >> eliot: as for the presidential debate. it was the first one. is it time to panic? that's ahead. [ male announcer ] did you know that mach3 can last longer than a disposable? mach3 has hd blades coated with 4 strengthening layers so it can last 2 times longer than a disposable. switch to mach3. closer shave, great value. gillette, mach3. smiles make more smiles. when the chocolate is hershey's. life is delicious. >> eliot: a billionaire resort owner tells his employees they may lose their jobs if barack obama gets reelect: that's next in my view. but first, a reminder tomorrow night join me along with cenk uygur, john fugelsang and governor jennifer granholm as we cover the vice presidential debate. al be an exciting match up. here on current tv. more "viewpoint" coming right up. (vo) what is said
it's 0-for-3. >> i like that. >> eliot: send that on to joe biden. he can use that, too. we'll be here thursday night and we'll be here with popcorn and soda. jennifer granholm, thank you so much for your time. looking forward to seeing you for our coverage. >> youyou betcha. >> eliot: as for the presidential debate. it was the first one. is it time to panic? that's ahead. [ male announcer ] did you know that mach3 can last longer than a disposable? mach3 has hd blades...
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joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> richard wolffe on the education of congressman paul ryan. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> "now's" terri o'neal on the romney ticket's disaster for women. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected should those that believe abortion should remain legal be worried? >> david cay johnston on ryan's sixth study lie. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. >> and what's more disrespectful? lying to america or interrupting a guy who's lying to america? >> it was openly contemptu
joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me...
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only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across specific points that they want to getting across. >> again, watching the live pictures -- rather the tape that just came in of paul ryan arriving at the location. i want to pivot to the polls. when we look at those numbers, this new round of polling showing that the president falling short of that 50% marker that so many watch specifically in florida and virginia. and democrats, their enthusiasm already seems to be suffering in the wake of last week. what will numbers under 50 do to the enthusiasm surrounding tonight's debate as w
only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across...
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they call him smilin' joe biden. he's quite the pin-up for women of a certain age you'd be surprised to know. >> thanks for the breaking news. on the tax cut where they challenged biden. on med i karks frankly i have to ask where is the press on that. there's been some substantive coverage but it hasn't been the main theme. >> you're right about that and i think biden in that sense made a mistake because he gave his opponent as chance to focus on the theatrics and not the substance. take one very good example where he skewer ryan on the question of the stimulus where ryan as a congressional representative from gainesville had twice asked for money from the constituencies. that kind of story has gotten buried in all of the talk about the theatrics. so the democrats are cheering biden, but he made a mistake by giving his opponent a chance to focus on the theatrics. >> is there so much media attention on his smiling and smurking aside in part because prot did so poorly in that first debate. >> yes. and of the particular
they call him smilin' joe biden. he's quite the pin-up for women of a certain age you'd be surprised to know. >> thanks for the breaking news. on the tax cut where they challenged biden. on med i karks frankly i have to ask where is the press on that. there's been some substantive coverage but it hasn't been the main theme. >> you're right about that and i think biden in that sense made a mistake because he gave his opponent as chance to focus on the theatrics and not the substance....